So welcome everyone. My name is Ana Adinolfi I'm the acting Director of Health Careers Advising here at Cornell. I serve alumni and  undergraduates in all schools and college my office is in172 Goldwin Smith, that's where I'm joining you from. Right now. With me tonight is Doug Lockwood, Doug, Do you want to say good good evening or good morning or whichever. Good afternoon and welcome folks. Will be managing I'll be managing the Q&A, and I'll be hosting tomorrows. AMCAS Day part two. So stay tuned for tomorrow after tonight's performance. So Doug's going to be behind the scenes for us but we'll probably get to pull him in the end for Q&A, thanks Doug. All right, so what are we going  to do today, we're going to talk about the application timeline for medical and dental schools. We're going to talk about applying when you're ready. I'm also going to go over the contents in depth for all the application services that you are going to be using this cycle. I have peppered in there frequently asked questions that I get this time of year about the application services. So hopefully we'll be heading off some of the questions that come up. Yes, application, applications aren't opened yet, but they will soon. And then talking about some resources that exist out there for you. Prepare you for part 2, which if you're attending live is tomorrow night and then of course, time for your questions at the end. Before we jump in, I want to get to know you a little bit so I can structure my, talk can we take a second and sign-in to poll everywhere and tell me what Application Service are you using. It should allow you to select more than one. And it should also allow you to, if you can't select more than one then you should be able to, answer multiple times just waiting, hoping that the dental applicants presses ADSAS no dental applicants yet. There we go. Alright, So it looks like the vast majority of you are planning to use AMCAS and 79%, 76 percent spoke too soon. So AMCAS is what I'm going to be using as my example applications service but I'm also going to go over all of the differences between the different application services so that nobody is left out. And many use AMCAS  as the guide, but certainly we're gonna   be talking about all of those different services. So great. So here's a timeline, as always. Before we jump into the content, I just wanted to take a second to reflect. It's almost time for you to submit your application. You've been working so hard. I know since the fall of 2021, but this moments for most of you represents years of work, years of planning, years of dreaming. And this is it, it's the next step in your goal to become a medical professional. So it's just a big moment. I wanted to start there. Such a cool moment. I understand, that it's also an anxiety inducing moment for a lot of people. Things are really getting real and it's an honor to be with you here for this process. For many of us, it's a culmination of years together advising. So I'm just so excited, for you all. And, so excited to help maybe reduce the anxiety a little bit, but we're really getting started on this journey together and just a little bit to the left of that made you an application. So I'm just excited. Okay, so here's a little bit of AMCAS information. What the AMCAS cycle looks like AMCAS is the largest group of applicants as I predict that's why I pre-did the slides this way. There's a lot of overlap among application services but this is how it works for most services. We'll start with little time. so you submit your application  we're going to go through what all of those steps are. Step one is application submitted, you pay your fees, get your materials, together you press submit. Second is the processing of the application. So AMCAS and all the other application services have a process in place to take a look at your transcripts table, look at everything that you sent in supporting documents on their verifying that. And then the next is the application being delivered to the actual schools themselves, delivering the letters, delivering everything. They have verified. So this is a three-step process. This is just the general overview we are going to go. So in depth on this. Here's some information about all the pieces of AMCAS So there's a lot of different pieces nine of them altogether. Some are pretty self-explanatory. A lot of them come with extra questions and that why I'm going to go over some Q&A tonight and hopefully answer live any FAQs that come up. But I didn't think about as I go through almost all of these sections. The big nine, alright, so the other and application services, they don't have a cool graphic like this, like AMCAS Does, but these are all the sections that are available on the other, ACOMAS for DO schools and ADSAS use the same portal is called liaison. So the sections are the same. Most, mostly you'll see that these are super similar section. To what I just showed you for AMCAS they were just in a little bit different order. Something to note about dental schools is that sometimes you're answering additional questions that are school-specific. Where as the medical schools it's going to be after the fact. So that's a  little bit on there for for the ADSAS applicants the people and some people won't be doing this at all. Okay, so what we're getting into the application, how do we do that? We go to AAMC.org. If you've registered for the MCAT, you applied in the previous cycle and participated in an AMC program. All of that information is already in the AAMC so they know who you are, your AMCAS ID is yours forever. You see there is a red rectangle around create AAMC accounts. 99% of you are not going to need to create an account you already have one. So please don't create a brand new account just for the  AMCAS. You already have one use the same one that you used for the MCAT or whatever else that you participated in. Next up, we have your AAMC profile. These first few sections. It's stuff you can fill out while you're watching Netflix or whatever. It's not going to take a lot of mental energy for most people And, Like I said earlier, a lot of the fields are going to pre-populate if you have an existing AAMC ID. So please get a look at things, make sure that everything is accurate and fill out any pieces that are missing. A good example of something that probably is missing if you only participated in the MCAT for instance, is your Cornell ID number? Taking the extra ten seconds to put your Cornell ID number in. Absolutely. It's gonna help expedite your application. That's than that help us next transcripts applications make sure that everything is all in order and make sure nothing gets lost. And also pause specifically on AAMC profile here because you're legal name or your preferred name has changed since you've registered or whatever the thing was. Registered first for AAMC. This is where you can change it on my AAMC profile page. So absolutely go ahead and do that if that's applicable. And there's going to be a place on the application and to lists and other names that they might have known you as. And so that's something to think about too. Did you sign up for AAMC with a different name? Do you have transcripts under a different name? Here is the main menu. A few things that I wanted to point out on the main menu, that top right arrow, that shows your submission status and of course, when you get in. You have not submitted yet. The arrow all the way on the bottom. And this is your application status at the moment, this is what you're going to keep an eye on as your application kind of moves through all that process, you will always get an e-mail from the AAMC will move on to the next phase. and so if you're feeling curious about where is my application in that three-step process, this is where you're going to get that information. the yellow star in-between the two arrows. That's important because that's where the print application button is. It's a crucial part of making sure that you are showing you that you complete your application. That's the last step. You're going to hear more about that tomorrow. But the print application button is how you're going to get that PDF to prove to the  HCEC you've submitted AMCAS Whenever that happens, and get you set on that timeline to get your letter finalized. So this is the important things to know. Biographic information see over towards the left hand side, there's all of these things that they're going to ask about you. And again, this is like chill Netflix filling out a lot of it's straightforward. I'm going to highlight a couple of things about this that I think are helpful. One is disadvantaged status. So you might consider itself disadvantage if you grew up in an area that was medically underserved or have insufficient access to social, economic, and educational opportunities. This is a question of a small excerpt from the AAMC. Information feeds about disadvantage status. If you answer yes to this question, they give you an additional 1325 characters including thesis. Explain why you consider yourself disadvantaged. And this gives me an opportunity to discuss those barriers to access. I'm going to talk about a few questions that I get about disadvantaged status. And so the person, do my circumstances qualify? Usually if you think your circumstances qualify, the answer is yes. Your circumstances do qualify. And that's certainly something that I encourage you to talk to a Health Careers Advisor about Health Careers Advisor about because we help people write these essays, all the time absolutely something that we can help you figure out does it make sense for me to check. Yes, here. If you have complicated circumstances like I've had applicants in the past, who have divorced parents and one parent was really privilege when they were living with that parent. They came from privileged backgrounds. When they were living with the other parent it disadvantaged backgrounds. So that's an example. I also have people who grew up disadvantage and for much of their childhood, they would be considered disadvantaged status. And then their families luck, took a turn and they were prosperous and not disadvantage when second half of their life or their high school years or something like that. So most of the time the answer is yes, you qualify if you can write about that. But again, we are happy to help you figure out what makes the most sense to be honest about your experience and your history, if it applies to you. Absolutely. Let's talk about it. The next question is, should I, in this space, if I don't consider myself disadvantaged? A lot of times I hear from applicants, well, this says it's optional, but is it really optional? Should I actually write something in that space, even if it doesn't necessarily apply to me. This is one of those times when the answer is no. If you don't consider yourself disadvantages, you don't think that this applies to you  this is a skip it. Question and move on. There's plenty of other times when the essay is optional that will encourage you to use the space. But this isn't one of them.  Another question I sometimes get from people who they know. That disadvantage applies to them is, should I answer this question will it negatively impacts my application? I think a lot of times people are thinking about financial circumstances. If you were financially disadvantaged, they might think, oh, those schoolwork think, I'm going to need more financial aid or something like that. And no, I don't think in general that answering yes to this question is a disadvantaged wow been using that word a lot. I don't think in general, it is a disadvantage to your application. Medical schools are looking to increase the diversity of the incoming applicants. They love to see people from diverse backgrounds working at their institutions. You're being trained as medical professionals. I think about all of the impact that you can make positively, not just on your site as a future professional, one of your classmates like when you're in medical school. So now your strength for diversity, I would say go for it if it applies to you. Another question that is in not in this section, but I went to address. Here is the Institutional Action question. So the question is, were you ever the reciepient of any institutional action resulting from unacceptable academic performance or a contact violation, even if such action and not interrupt their enrollment require you to withdraw or does not appear on your official transcript institutional policy, or personal petition.  So if you answer yes to this question. You get 1325 characters, just like the disadvantaged question to explain the situation. This matters not only because schools want to admit people who are going to uphold the ethics of the profession. But because you also get a very comprehensive background check when you're applying for licensure the end of your profession school. And the school's want to know now what might come up in that background check before they spend their time and money educating you just to find out that you aren't able to be licensed 5-6 years from now. So questions that I got about institutional action. Oh, no. First criminal background checks. Again, this doesn't go together, but I just want to be aware that some schools are going to run them when you're accepted or when the waitlist you. So even we're talking about the background check that happens at the end we are being licensed. Many schools are going to run a background check when you're accepted or waitlisted by them. The list of schools that participate that's available on the AAMC website. It's also something you can find on the schools MSAR page the medical school admissions requirements of the screenings run by certify. And this is a little bit of information about that. Institutional Action FAQ's The first thing to know is that if this question applies to you, you must answer yes, even if your records been expunged even if you are alumni. It, it is a great idea to talk about this with the health careers advisor. We are confidential resources most of the time. And if you have more information about when we can't be confidential resources asked before you dispose. I can absolutely talk to you about what I am and I'm not required to disclose outside parties. So absolutely. Please use a Health Careers Advisor to talk about your specific situation if you're not sure. And usually the answer is yes, you need to you need to say something about it. Regardless of whether or not it was expunged. It's also get questions. Sometimes like, what if it wasn't my fault? It was something really silly? I wasn't wasn't actual me or I just said yes because of X, Y, and Z reasons. Sometimes if the incidence is more recent or the learning is still happening, It's really hard to write about the incident we're encouraging you to do in this essay is to take responsibility for what happened and talk about what it is that you learned that can be tough if that is your narrative, a false accusation or this was so minor, that sort of thing. So if you're having trouble with writing the essay, because the incident just seems so minor or silly or there are extenuating circumstances. Again, please consult the health careers advisor. We help people write these essays all of this time and are happy to need it for, tone, read it for responsibility. You read it for learning than us. We would love to talk to you about it. So back to schools attended I here's where you're going to answer. Enter any school where he took classes and received the transcripts. I get questions about transcripts and I'm going to talk about that in a second and Doug's going to address it tomorrow with HCEC you while we're here on the schools attended page when you're entering Cornell, when you enter in Any school but I work at Cornell. So I'm going to talk about us this advisor release section that has the red rectangle around it. If you choose to check this box, the advisors that designated by Cornell. that's me, right now, have access to information about your application. We get condensed information and we can't see the entire thing, but we get reports that we can run. So if you ever heard me say, this is the average number of schools that Cornellian's apply to or, you know, this GPA and this MCAT has an X percentage of being admitted to at least one medical school. That's likely information to be gained from past years of Cornellians, clicking yes. In this box and it gives me the data we're going to carefully see if any of your information I promise you we don't make information personally identifiable. Sorry, we don't I mean, with the data, I probably had some people who have asked me questions in this webinar. I said, Oh, the end is too low. Yeah, I can't share that information. We're only talking about five applicants So that's to personally identifiable for me to share. So there's a possibility that you could ever be identified. Promise you, you're not going to share the data if you feel comfortable checking, yes, that's something I strongly urge you to view. It helps future crunch aliens you benefited from it most likely, get a sense of what it's like to apply to health professions for us. So finding a Advisor, at least if you're comfortable doing that you soon. So the answer to do I need to submit a transcript is almost always yes. But it really depends. And Cassian, but it's so comprehensive about this. Like I said, I'm just going to cover it tomorrow. So I just wanted to say this is somethings we think about. Another question that I get a lot is about study abroad. I know that this is slightly more rare for our 2020 to apprehend due to COVID. But the AMC resources are read a ball for helping me understand what counts and what goes out. Whether or not you submit study abroad transcripts, letter, International transcripts, berries, or program to program. There's a lot of factors at play. You see here there's a whole video about it. In addition to it being part of the AMC, die not going to try to distill the ages of information on the entire YouTube video into one PowerPoint slide. But please start. Your wouldn't have questions about transcripts. If you have complicated questions or you're not sure how to interpret information that you see in the sky or in the videos, then yes, absolutely. Yeah. Her as advisors are happy to help you interpret that. And again, I'm not going to jump out because Douglass. It a lot. I rate, so downcast also does a great job with the tutorials for coursework. I recommend you read them, watch the videos. It's almost likely that your question is answered. They're going to address some FAQs that are really specific to Cornell anions in your situation. Or a little bit more complicated than what the tutorials covered, but this is what coursework looks like. Here's what the page looks like when you're entering coursework. This is a simple thing to do, but it's time-consuming. And so I want to make sure that we're making time to enter these coursework because that is a little bit, I think a show to binge-watch. You do it a couple hours a day. I don't recommend seeding this section for the last minute because it seems easy. But my guess would be the number one cause of all-nighters, they want us to do that and ask is this coursework section because the details are working. This is a slide that exit from the AMC webinar. I you see that they put this tiring over. Applicant should use official transcripts to complete this section. They really do recommend that you do this because the person into their eyes, your application That's in and make sure it matches exactly so you want it exact. It's also worth noting that or transcripts. Again, the exact matches important and so you don't want to skip over anything like boutique. Just put everything exactly as is under trends. Course classification. So when we talk about coarse classification, you might have heard the CPM. Some people use that term is every day in their language and some people, this is the first time that you're hearing it. Bcp and isn't M cast turn it? Science or biology, chemistry, physics, and math. And so when you go to you and to your courses in you're going to be telling in CAS? Yes. This counts as biology, chemistry, ma, or a counselor by all other GPA. That is the rest of the course. If I have this big arrow pointing towards the top left of the course, that's a big issue guy. These are the course ID, bad skin cancer said, Yes, he's count her biology, chemistry, physics. And I have a little arrow and you can see it pointing towards nutrition, which is under Health Sciences, which is fairly out of the CPM pacification. He jumped to the Q and a box. I know that many words he can nutrition classes, very dense. And there's a big bio or chemistry component or biochemistry component to some nutrition classes. Some of you might also have teeth in a course that's cross-listed with psychology and neuroscience needs it, but psychology burst. If your primary content of the course, this biology, chemistry, physics, or math, you can count it in your PC, EMG. Okay. It's not based on the department say no, it's based on the contents of a horse. It's fine to put a nutrition class that was biochemistry for guess your BCPL. It's in fact encouraged. I get credit for it. You did the biochem, we deserve it. And know that it's a coma spritz your application teach the m out. They only look at biology, chemistry, and physics. As f has a few more categories for dental school and T and D, SAS and ossify versus for you. Very similar with the exceptions Yankee SAS, just make that choice on your behalf. So epoch you say get about coursework. So like I said earlier, the best thing you can do is accurately enter all your coursework exactly as they appear. Can I have a question came in regarding the BCP and GPA. Do research credits that fall under biology count towards the BCP and GPA. I am about to get there, my friends. This next slide is perfect for you. The short answer, I'll skip ahead. Yes. So if you did research where it's easy to class but she receive credit for and that classes in biology, chemistry, physics, or math? Yes. Those courses count towards your VC? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Another question I get a lot made it nice is, do I really put them random course abbreviations on my transcript? They might take the first three letters of an 11 word course and it doesn't make any sense. Nobody in their right mind going over that course was about, yes. You put them Random abbreviated course on there. There's a human being on the other edge was there. So somebody and CAS knows what that course isn't going to work all of it back. So your job is to be accurate. Your job is to enter things as they appear on your transcripts and the casts. His job is to make sense of it and verify it. Another question is why. Cass and I disagree what should be counted SVC? Yeah. So I say no, I took this biomedical engineering class and I said it counts as my DC. Yeah. And then I look at my verification from and cast and they say no, that's fine. You can disagree and passes automatically in the verification process in a flip it from BCPL GPA to all other GPA. And then all you have to do if you disagree with them is there's a form that you fill out called an academic seems request form to the academic change requests. Usually you're submitting a copy of the transcript for the course along with that, and you send it back to impasse and you say, Can we take a look at this? I disagree with you disagreeing with me. So though they didn't review the overview it further. If it's a newer course or it's a course that you're concerned about, midi and pass my thing. Then try and get a copy of this right now than not, we are ready to go right away. If you aren't, if it doesn't count it as part of your currency, yeah. Then it right away say, here's my academic teams request form and here is the spring force. I answer the question about undergraduate research and yea, I hope that stimulus for you. Also. How do I know my M cast GPA is my B, C? Yeah. My all of them. I want to and the answer is you don't when you're filling out the application, you're only guess, right? A person is verifying it and so you won't know your final totals and so your application and verify. What about courses I took it faithful over the summer or elsewhere. That is a case-by-case basis. You earn college credit or you're going to be submitting it. And again, that's something that I can help you figure out. I rates. Next section. This is the second biggest cause of cancer-related all night. It's not the biggest because you've already done something like that work in activity section or your biff where the East Sea. So that information's there. How quick tip? Because I know that there is a lot of alumni RACI we haven't yet submitted their material to HCPC at this point, getting closer to submit dates for impasse, I recommend that you keep an eye on the word counts for the activity section and the personal statements because it makes sense to work on that. Cast word counts, character count than it does to your HCPC. Character counts are more generous. I want you to be a little bit more discerning with how much you're choosing for it at this point. So yes, great idea if you pull out that this, because that's going to be very, very helpful in this section. For the work activities section, you get a maximum of 15 entries. And you can enter date ranges and multiple times if that applies to use if you've done something for some reason a row, Let's say enter multiple summers in a row. You get, if you could enter and just get an hours, I'm going to cover that in a second. Then you get a maximum of three most meaningful experience. So here's an idea of the Incast work in activities categories. So 700 characters is the limit and that's including spaces for most things. And then you have your three most meaningful experiences. You're going to get 1325 for most meaningful experiences. Your experiences. They appear chronologically. Yeah. And you can enter it. You have to enter the 20 hours of the experience and you have a contact person. You can also enter in future hours up to August 2020. We hope you're going to be much below. This gives you a sense. Him cast, work and activity use categories and what they look like. There's a ton of that. Here's some FAQs about work in activities sections. I talk to people a lot about what they should choose as most me. And my answer is usually what's most meaningful to you. What did you do the most learning, where you have the most impact, what really change your perspective, right? Don't try and make it fit a formula. The formula is going to be different for all applicants. It's really unique to you. Sometimes it makes sense. Think about your greatest learning and your greatest demonstration of competencies. But again, it might just be like what feels the most meaningful to you. And I know that sounds silly to say, but it's true. A question. What if I have more than 15 experiences? So when you're dealing with more than 15 experiences, again, I recommend that you think about what's most meaningful to you. Another thing that can kind of help us get to the bottom of the list of things to think about is, what would you address it? Or what's something that is unique or different adoption rate. So if I did Relay for Life one year and it was fun, I'm going to talk about that in an interview the way that I would if I didn't Relay For Life all four years of case law for years in college. And I had a family member that was affected by cancer rates. So that's a different story. I might be more can we did in the second instance that I'm going to talk about it in the interview. If it's something that's not necessarily relevant to me as a person, not to imagining what schools would want to see, but who am I as a person? Then I will do that. So, how can I combine experiences? I'm the most common way and usually this happens when people have more than 15 experiences, the most commonly to combine experiences, It's usually when you're talking about shadowy. If you shadows multiple physicians in the practice or the C hospital for instance, that's easier than creating five different entries for them. Sometimes it makes sense to combine things. Perhaps he hunting dates and hours and contact people. So all of that has to make sense together. But that answer of how to combine different for everybody and do you need to combine or should you combine is a question for helpers advice. What if an experience in more than one category? So this is going to be about the primary focus of the experience. So whatever it primarily was for you, I would select that as I worry that it goes. If it's truly a 5050 saw earlier, there are so many different categories you can put stuff in. You might consider being balanced with your categories, but it really just depends on you and what makes the most sense. What is my contact person doesn't work there anymore, or it was assumed run the organization or there's some other complication around verifying your yes. So the way that I think about it is that casts they're not going to check up on every single application all of the time. But in cast might want to do is verify a specific experience. And so who can do backward rate? It might be up here, I thought a preference, but could the advisor for that here Run Club? They are Edward members problems spend six hours a week working on Club related stuff? Yes. Or if the nurse at the hospital where he volunteered can say college volunteers probably do a 100 hours total. So as long as it's somebody who can generally verify that you worked there and around how many hours? Sounds hopeful. Sound like something that is common, then that is totally fine. So yes, you need the contact person. Yes, we need ours. Doesn't have to be the person who can remember you and tell stories and write you a letter of recommendation. Know, how should I write about my experience? Says. So, something to think about is core competencies are entering and medical professionals that we've been showing you for years and years now. How did you demonstrate the core competencies? You don't have to be heavy handed it out, writing about it specifically, but what did you do? What did you learn? What impact did you have? And so they're writing about the experiences. Think about who your audience is, admissions committee members, physicians, faculty members, and what they would want to hear about your experience and how you can invade your learning through that experience. Should I write about future experiences? This depends, honestly. I don't tend to recommend enough way that you write about future experiences because they're in the future, right? What have we learned from the past years of the pandemic? You say eat plants and then they change, right? Circumstances outside of your control. So experiences that you have already started and that you have an end date on that makes sense. Experiences that you've signed a contract where maybe makes sense, but it's hard to write about something when just started it or you're just about to start. How do you enter plan hours? That's what this chart is at the bottom, it gives you a sense of how you make something. Let's say you started with this past year, you're going to continue and the zinc acetate next year. I have here, the hour is up until June 2022 is a 100 and then stop and June 2022 and we start in July 2020 year, which will be the future. So June 2020, do you will need a pass and July some utilities will be the future by the time he's done that your approbation. And so this is how I recommend that you do it to do multiple entry is where you're starting the plant hours a little bit. All right. The next section is about letters of evaluation and recommendation. It's UCS and I cover this in depth tomorrow. So I just wanted to acknowledge, I didn't forget it. I'm an entire section of the application that is going to adjust this. Prior to the next section is using medical school. So in choosing your medical schools, I just wanted to point out that answer as your friends. So you have these awesome application guide to advocate guides for all of the aggregation services they've x and then integrate it and break into the application now is, I'm sorry. So you can click on Amazon provirus rate year. When you're looking at medical schools, you can answer everything and you can see there's a program, there is information about the applicant's and also information just weigh out about him yet. See letters of evaluation recommendation. Again, that is going to cover that a little bit more in depth. I just want to say in a blanket term that if you have additional letters of recommendation, which most applicants don't. If you have additional letters of recommendation and assign them to a certain school. So outside of the letter of evaluation, see there's other letters of recommendation. And once you submit, that is an option for each individual that swarm. So here is a list of FAQs I get about my to find them out. It's all about creating a spool. This I just created I just cover this really in-depth. A few weeks ago, I had it. She said well rested medical and dental school presentation. That is on the CCF media library website where I addressed these questions. So please do check that out because it's an hour and 10 minutes of great information. The thing that I wanted to address is when you should and schools to your list, that is important to think about because you only need one small on your list to submit. So you are submitting and costs, let's say an early June. You only need to have at that point, once on your list, you can add additional schools after that point. It's the most common to have a complete list of schools when you submit in cast for the first time. But if for some reason it makes sense for you to mess around with your school's later on, nomads going to look at your application until we get further into junzi, how Times had a massive backlash. If you are curious about where realistic wolf is this appropriate or do I need to add things? Do I need to have things? This is a great time to come to my job and hours. Yeah, 15 minutes, one-on-one together. It kind of feels like a game. Show to me to look at your list will ask you a bunch of questions and they'll be some edits really put forth. So that's a great reason to kinda drop and let me take a look at it. And if you have specific questions, right, I talked to some age that it's like I'm trying to get rid of six schools. We can try never to six poles and 15 minutes, I can make that happen, right? Yeah. The next use that as a section and some personal comments for M cast. But it's personal statement is how it's known. Kind of cool really. It's 5300 characters including spaces. Again, alumni if you have not. So that is the HCPC yet, please keep 5300 characters including spaces and mines. So you don't have to need drastic changes. Something to know about the personal comment is that there's no formatting that comes along with it. So if you're relying on its house, italics or bold or something fancy, you make your points in your personal statement. I would do agree, right. So they don't need anything fancy workspace, do it and like notes or Notepad or something, I will say most people are using Google Docs or word, but just keep that in mind. And that's another thing too. Make sure you're devoting a little bit at time 2 is that when you're copying pasting USE section, we want to make sure that it doesn't look crazy when you're doing that happening. For Enkidu, he admits you have the personal essay and you have an MVPA CFA E, and you also have a significant research experience essay. I'm pointing this out for our kids because it's really important that you make time to your faculty, mentors, research recommenders that people who are experts in your field, you to make time to have them essays or you with you because they're going to be the experts. You gave me a three page essay on biochemistry. I can help you read for tone and clarity, but I'm not an expert in your research the way that your PI is. And so have this in your mind. Not only do I want to write these essays, a major vessel. I also need to have my research meant for us taking a look at them as well. So you need time for that rate. So two of the biggest questions I get about writing essays is where can I get help with this? I certainly look at personal statements. My capacity is limited. Unfortunately, there are three people in Cornell Career Services who look at personal statement and they can begin to primary care services website. And we are in the process of prayer and a writing tutor that is just for you all. So hopefully if you're watching this recording that you're that person has already been hired and you bounds an email about it, but that person should be coming on board shortly and I absolutely will be sending you an email when we hire them. This will be a writing tutor that's just for you all to get help for us. So that person's being hired as heat. So they do array. Next we have standardized tests. So if you are using impasse and you taken me and perhaps they already know thickets automatic because the systems talk to each other. It's the same thing. So your path and that's for you to try. Now, hopefully you did on double AAMC, I am asking you get in there for a promise and TMD SAS if you're using, There's just an extra step in some rooms for him to let a and C no. To sentence fours over to those application services. If you haven't taken the exam yet or you're playing your exam and it featured a business where you would indicate our FAQs and I'm going to cover this a little bit later. So do me a favor. If you have a question about this, hang onto that question and hopefully I'll get to later on. He said, he said Okay, So China isn't that my application before IT in the exam? Yes. You can. It's not something that's required for you yeah. When you submit your application. So absolutely. And submit your application, should you submit your Avid feature before taking the exam? That depends on a number of factors and there's probably a reason to talk to your advisor if you haven't already know, it depends on so many factors. How is unsteady going? What is the reasoning for having an exudate after you're planning to submit. What makes sense with your timeline, how the rest of your application preparation going, there's a lot of things that go into you, should you but can you 100 percent? Yes. Yeah. Can I send in my application if I teach in the exam, but my scores have been released yet. Yes, As know, there's so much space between actress in the museum and the scores coming out. That is exactly the same answer as the previous one, which is absolutely, You can send you, hey, How is the going, how do you feel are untested power the practice exam? So does it make sense for you to submit? So that's something to talk about with our first lesson. I rate certifications humans. This is a long one. This is the very last step of the application. I know I said earlier that you can do a lot of this stuff watching TV. This is where you need to be exact date. So we're reading everything over, meeting all of you steam and for making sure that we understand exactly what we're assigning. That is for sure something that needs to be doing. So enter it while watching Netflix and then go back and show that you had to. Correct. So do this, I now review. This is also where you pay your last but not the straight. I have here a list of things that you can change. You're submitting this, this is from M cats. So there are some things that ads and change and might change and you can mess with this. After submitting. You know, that your application may or may not have already been transmitted to medical schools by the time you need to make this change. So it's not ideal obviously if you're really keen to see your application after you submitted, but the things on this list are absolutely possible to change. It just may require some administrative stuff. Okay, So there are a bunch of tools and resources and use tools and resources are repeated elsewhere. So AVA have access has then the SAS great tutorials, great advocate, right? Knees. Take a look at this. It's so useful. This set so much, I'm on it. And Odyssey, if you are e-mailing me a specific question about M cast, but I don't know off the top my head, I'm usually going to be guide anyway, so I recommend that you start very soon fall. And cast osteopaths, a Twitter page that they will update, usually with processing times and stuff like that. All right, so now I'm going to talk about the differences between the other application services that you might use in cats. Because I know it's getting a ton of Incast examples and as we saw at the beginning, everybody. So here are some big differences between empath and the other application services you might be using. So when we're looking at BCPL GPA, because a lot of categories for Alsace and so Yogi at classifying things a little bit differently to make sure that prerequisite fee waiver this lungs rarely or in I'm going to say it more than once because of how important it is. You have to start your abscess in order to write for your feelings. So that's not something you could have a fry for beforehand. The funds are given on a first-come, first-serve basis. So if you apply, if you think your voice although I for the fee waiver and the fee waiver, It's going to be a significant helped you being for the cost of this. Apply early, apply as soon as you can create an application. Because those unsold very quickly. You can G6, most meaningful activities in your work and activities sections that are just three. You can't put things that are coming up or in progress, so no future activities. And then the activity categories, you're very, very dense. I'll focus specifically dental Ferguson. You were absolutely categories but very focused on unnecessary. And it took me here. Is that a chroma differences, like I said earlier, no math for that. You see GPA. You can't do future activities, that kind of in-progress activity you so if you started it and you're going to finish it up at the end of the month or something. There's your activity category is with a CMS. And they have achievements like honors, awards and publications are counted in your activities, they're counted in a separate sections. You get a little more space there for your other stuff. Last but not least, TMD, SA S. So that's the Texas system. They're going to classify your VCM courses for your choice. I'll do it. So unlike other services where really technically submit before spring grades come out, you don't have a choice tests. You have to have your spring rates in an order that press submit the person. I'll see that the shorter the character element's reactivity is a server, the character last and most meaningful experience, it's shorter. So I'm highlighting all of those because I know that there are many people choose to do M cast and TMD SAS. And so you're going to have to cut where GOD SAS. So we've have that in the back of your mind that your decorative hundreds of characters in order to do TMG SAS, and so it's not simple. Copy paste. The purchase would be in both issued services. There is no if you just start, it's allowed. There is another place on the application outside of the activities section for future experiences. And then there's a few extra SE, so unique experiences or life circumstances and then a personal characteristics important, challenging experience. This is an optional essay. Remember I said earlier, some essays are optional, but people ask me if they actually are. If you have something to say for this essay, this is one of those where I say, yep, Go ahead. I wouldn't consider this optimal as long as you have something to say. So he's write this essay if your ego and those have a 2500 character. So those are the main differences between application services. Okay, let's take moments. Let's substitute each just for a second. That's done with the application walk-through. Now I'm moving on the application timeline. As a lot of supervision that a lot of tedious and permeation, deep breath, stretch, zone out, but he zoomed out. Now is a great time to zoom back in. Hello, come back to us, and we'll move on to the next part of the presentation. I also put this in here to remind me to drink water. So take a couple of the brands. Right? Yeah. I felt like I was at now we're back. I'm let me take a look at the questions to see if there's anything that makes sense to address right outside. I don't know if there was anything that you're like, oh, yeah. We got to cover this lab. Okay. I'm going to address a couple of what is my oh, yes. There's a question about activities. What if my extra curricular activity contact person isn't honesty, foreign country? How are they going to contact and bear my app active? So that is again, to contact that person. Though put the contact person that makes the most sense. I can verify that activity. I think I've been doing this over a decade. This is my 11th application cycle with you all. In 11 years. I think I've had two people be contacted to verify activity. So it's not a common thing. Absolutely. It has to be there, has to be accurate. It is not. Huh? Oh, no, I have a question. Is it just focus and I'll see that you can clarify that. I'll see if I can figure it out for work and activities. How should I approach my right to the B1 focus on what I learn, impact on my journey rather than what I actually did in that position? That's a great question. The answer is both. Unfortunately, it's a lot to get into 700 characters. So it's going to depend a lot of the time on how much you need to explain on what the activity rate to they still have that campus, C90, this watchers, those are the people who go to parties to make sure that everything is happening the way that it should be. A cube has watchers is the greetings. Yoho is not understood what that group does, what is its purpose? You're probably going to have to spend a lot. Here. There's talking about why they exist and what your dogs, as opposed to something like EMS straight. We all know more or less like paramedics do what EMTs do. And so you don't have to explain like being on an ambulance in patients that are sick, you can focus more on you're there. So it's going to depend on the activity, the general understanding of your audience, and what if those are some things that I'm going to talk about? How does there need to be a continuity of message contents in the personal comments, research, essays, free applicants, I'm going to address re-application later, but it should all sound like it's coming from the same person, the same narrative, how much overlap there isn't. The content really depends on how much overlap you have in your story. So as long as things are cohesive, make sense together, then it's fine if there's a little bit different flavor to them, but certainly they should all seem like you're coming from the speaker said, yes, I'm going to adjust spring persons than a minute. If taking a ray in an activity that I will return to later, does it count as in progress? So I would put that NDI and then you can put a new Starkey or when you're going to return to the activity so that something for instance, and you did in the fall semester, but you're not going to start again until the fall of next year, then I will put it as you know, September 2020 to you. Is there to describe unique academic semesters. Concussion help me if I'm in Acts. So hence, there are places where it might go, but there's no specific place that it makes no set. The only additional essays, yum. Personal comments and activities are those tuition, institutional action, and disadvantaged status, and those usually don't apply. So it might be something you address in your personal statement. It might be something that your recommenders your ECG letter addresses malate then on that tomorrow. But it's not going to be a lease that is super obvious. Depend on what makes sense for you as an applicant and how much your health we've had an impact on your journey to become a health profession. The snippy a question for tomorrow embassy that ends. Yes. That seems we need to order an official transcript to fill out the course is assume the unofficial one is the same as the official. Use only that is true. I still recommend working off the official transcript because I want things to get Zach order that they were any on your assumptions. Can you start a 2023 and cast application but decide not to apply the cycle and then never submit it. Yes. You can hop right in there. You can do whatever you want. I'm going to make you saw that big. It's what you need to certify at the end of your application? For sure? Yes. You they're going to make fungible sure that you know, you're about to submit and you can't do it accidentally. You can hop in there and do whatever you want and then decide not to buy absolutely. Before people who are every applicant, stuff like AMC, you'll have your legal name and stuff like that pre-populated, prepopulated for you. Are right. Let's move on. So now we're going to talk about applying and applying. What we like to see and help versus advising is a high early when you are ready. So having a application that is ready is more important than getting your application in on the very, very first day that you can possibly get it. Here's some application services and timelines. So we see all of our application services there on the left for M cast. That opening day is May or a comma is May 4th, TMD SAS second and access needs and the earliest admission date then in the middle of the, of the chart there. And then the earliest transmission D or N class, which I know is 75% of you, that's I'm doing something for. So our June 24 friends, that means that no medical school would you see more application until that transmission though two to four weeks or six weeks or when you submit the SAS sas a comas is mid June. I don't have an actual or not. But for M cast, it's important. So you can get into the application on the opening at means it's open for you to begin inquiry information. You can start playing around with it and start looking at things. You can start entering in as you're watching TV or whatever. Submission this the date that you can actually press the button, submit your application though. And then the reason why there's alive, It's really a submission date. And the earliest transmissivity is again, because there's a human be looking at your application, verifying it. The exact same thing for all of the other applicants, CU Arts. And then I also want to remind you about fee waivers again, we covered this in depth in the choosing medical and dental schools, a webinar, but this is just something to have in mind. Amc for him cast those fee waivers are not retroactive stuff. You've already spent money. You can't get your money back. But if your financial circumstances change, if you forgot to apply, you didn't apply it. So absolutely makes sense for you to apply. Please do get all of that. The assistance that you possibly can access an illness or fever opens with the application. And again, the fees get the assistance, gets the lid really quickly. So if I see you and we want a leader, absolutely. Go ahead. Yeah. And why for that? And that's my message to you at the waivers are something that are going to help you, that you're going to qualify for that all of the money. And I know that many people who are applying busy Cas. And so by using a CMS, a fight of a program, that the value that's possible and do that. So that's something that you do when it's available. So you saw that there is that early June date. I wanted to point out that the important dates this is from April require name. Make sure you're staying up to date on those required means. I so you see that M cast admission opens it for you. But everybody among undergraduates has until June 10th, you to submit their application in order to be considered in the first year for each letter. So let me explain that and don't jump in if you need to do but so do check. And that is a change or earlier places we just changed it because M cashflows messing around with the date that they were saying they're opening and stuff like that. So everybody, alumni, undergraduates coming from for now has installed gene and that you do submit their application to be considered in that first year. The first year helps ECC figure out who they're going to write letters. We're going to finalize the letter's worth birds. And so being in that first year means you're among the earliest. It does not make a difference. If you submit on June 1st at ten AM or tune-type attending and they're going to the embassy. And so if those extra few days are helpful to you and wonderful undergraduates, you are probably going to need that time because humans wait for spring break to come out. And that is purposely why the deadlines silence. I'll do time over the first year laterally. So he said, Oh, go ahead. I see. I see. Yeah, There was a question about this in the Q&A and I hit answered live and I just wanted to clarify it. When we order our official transcript, if we'd need a spring grades to beyond that. And that is after your official spring grades are in Students Center and I'm going to talk about that tomorrow, but I just want to clarify that there's plenty of time between the very first day that you can submit and casts, which is May 31st, and the deadline to qualified for the CEC first tier letter release, which is June 10th, so there's 10 days. So you don't have to be the first one in. You got ten days to enter in all of your grades and submit your transcripts, and submit your application and complete your HCI. Hci easy checklists and so I'll cover that tomorrow. One other quick thing. If somebody, I see somebody alumni working on eight CEC and AMD cast, now can we submit them at the same time? The purpose of the HCCs to help prepare you for the MKS application. You can do the HCC work now. And then you can copy and paste over to the MKS application when it opens next week. So doing them at the same time doesn't help you doing the HCC first does support your application to impasse. So I'll talk a little bit more about that tomorrow. Great. And do feel free to make urine ask that comes out. Is there something that we're missing? We'll make sure that we get all the questions answered before we're done today. Okay. So the next thing that I have is like we're questions that I get about units. So do I press them into my application and I ready or is this a legitimate reasons? But wait, is this a legitimate reasons? I hadn't said that. So I'm going to go through a few of these things. So we for spring 2022, great. As I alluded to this, that yes, we want you to make their spring cell needs energy. The reason why the first year deadline for the seat, you see a set so far back is pretty vague so that you can do that. So please do, wait for that. With g and the SAS, you don't have a choice within CAS? Yes, you can submit without spring breaks loose though, you're going to have to go back and get your obligation really looked at again, when you're spraying rates on it. And there's no guarantee at medical schools aren't going to weights to evaluate your application until they get a screen reader if it gets transmitted to them, Hey, we're going to evaluate it so you don't have control over that. So don't run a commerce world process without spring grades, we can't add them later. And so they'll never see your spring 2020 grades. And what are we studying right now? If not others, springs needs your grades. Ansatz will accept without spring. But then the way that they do it with updates and read out a whole webinar about updates for you, this file, the way they do it at the first nine academic update, read until November. So yes, you can let them know about your screen reads, but by that point it'll be basically 2023. And so we don't want them to be evaluating application without those straight. So yes, absolutely. Wait for your spring grades. There's no disadvantage to waiting for your spring grades because we believe that these things wait for any CAD THE score. So I kind of addressed this earlier, but really, it depends. Absolute me, if you're deciding to apply to the application service or taking your exam number 4, receiving your scores for your exam. Absolutely. Enter in the Feature testy. You're retaking or something like that, please enter in a future test C. And that's because particularly for applicants were doing a retake. Medical schools don't know if you don't tell them. So it's very possible that you could be waiting for your hard earned score. And the school will look at your application and make a decision about whether or not to buy your interview without even seeing your beautiful second, I'm cats wherever you work so hard for. So they don't know. So you have to make sure that they know. They're going to wait for the news or before they consider a file, or they evaluate your occupation and that's what you want. And we want them to look at all of your hard work and how things you'd die. When is too late to take. Uncac is another one of those, like, it really depends on what's going on. So things like, does your choice to apply this cycle hinge on what your heterogeneities for is is your primary applications still going to be as early as compared as possible given the spend plan that you probably hours. What is your list of schools look like? How studying, golly, what do your practice tests for asthma play? So I have here, it's not a question, but school a strategy for once ignition happens, where you have worth. Sometimes I hear students say, Oh, well, I will try to throw a SWOT 10. And then I'll see how my water turns out and then I'll decide what to do after that. Don't encourage and thoroughly school not only because it off money, because I'm prompts you to be thinking critically about where you're going to be applying to schools. So pick a school where maybe it's not going to matter what your M caps or is your why to that school no matter what. And then for the rest of it, you know, how I put an Excel spreadsheet time. You know, if this, if my scores in this range, maybe I'll add this range. Schools, think about all the possibilities that are available and you'll make your choice. And again, that's upending is really a thing to consult with the helpers advisor about. We can help you get through kind of the detail of the tiny about that and what's appropriate for you given your situation nurses history. So we have those conversations all the time. Feces us for that. Wait. For the AC easy letter. Now. I can't wait. You have to submit and casts or your application in order for you to know that you submitted it so that they can begin to finalize your letter and send it out. So a very important imperative that HDAC process and I know that this is going to cover this in depth tomorrow. A huge part of the HCPC processes letting them know, Hey, I finished application, you can go ahead and get my letter processed and sent out. So no, you can't it's not possible. And so don't do it because you'll never know you apply and so we'll never know. Okay, it's time to prepare the slides. Oh, wait for high-quality, right? Yes, Please. Do you have to feel competent in your application materials in order to pass Summit? If you need more time to rate, if you need time to double-check things, if things are feeling really difficult and rushed, who easily? We would much rather you have a high fall on the application that you're proud of, that you know, all of your best effort into something that you sent out at the last minute and you're not really sure if it's even good. And writing is definitely one of those things that can go out. But please don't. I, if you're not confident, particularly in the high-quality writing, in the double-check your application. You know, error-free is this. And so great, like early is nice. But error-free is absolutely essential. High quality is absolutely essential. We want you to be preparing yourself out there in the best light possible. So holy US bank. And if it's not feeling great, if it's not filled with air free and high-quality, they consider whether or not it might make sense to lead an extra cycle much rather have you leads much I'd have you apply on June 14th, then have writing you're not proud of or monopoly. But again, if it's feeling like an impossible, if it's really feeling like, I don't have an assay. This right now. Please reach out to our hope for his advisor. We can have a conversation about what's the difference. I had a whole week of this last week really about what's the difference between I'm feeling anxious because this is a big moment for me. Yes, I'm feeling anxious because I'm not prepared. I'm feeling anxious because I feel like I should do this or that helped me figure out what makes the most sense. You get the ice probably occupation possible. And it's a lot of pressure and there's a lot going on. Make sure that you are thinking and using your resources about making sure your application is as prepared as possible. And if it feels impossible, task yourself, possible right now, that can be an answer. And it doesn't mean you're not going to a doctor or a dentist. It doesn't mean you're giving up on your painting. It just might be handy to read a cycle. This is too much great though, reach out to talk to them. Yeah, So that's a great segue in that this process of law right now I'm talking to you at the end of 2022. It's possible that a year from now still might not know where you're going sabbatical or potentials for next year. So that can be an intimidating, but it's, it's a year away. Its neighbors IPA, forget for making those decisions. I know this part of the application process. Yeah, like a sprint to get everything finished. I get all that material done. But it is a small part of the larger marathon they already started months ago. That's part of this year's long experience that you're embarking on all the training that your doctor or a dentist VC care of yourself, do, whatever. That means. This out here means when you sleep, nutrition, hanging with your family or your friends, certainly lean on us to help readers advisory team or supporter. Not going to be the last time that this process, there's a lot. You are entering into a profession where self-care and coping skills are going to serve you, right? So start now thinking about, okay, yeah, in this high-stress time, I have a lot on how can I care for myself and how can I make sure that I'm putting my best foot forward and that my mental health we're seeing. So you're going to be a doctor or dentist if absolutely. Right. It doesn't matter. Listening to yourself. Do I need to stop? Do I need to slow down when you depress us? Useless in yourself? We can sort out tiny whenever it needs. I want you to be the best health professional that I want you to be the best for you. So please take care of yourself. Income tax or healthcare is advisor if you're feeling like it's too much. So again, Are there other things, other courses that you can seek help? So there's me of course, in Human Ecology and cows, you have your own designated health careers advisors and Braess's stuck with me. Cornell Career Services. We'll review your Incast personal statements and artists use and not services for our alumni and for undergraduate. So everybody, the AC easy checklists is your source of information, particularly about the HCPC FAQs. There's news bulletin, there's required readings. So do keep an eye on that UCC website, has a lot of important stuff is posted there and just lay the application services dads, oftentimes the answer is there, you just got to make sure that you're looking in the right place. And we grew up in the right place. As I mentioned earlier, all of the application services have wonderful PDF guides. Then you have them have videos about the application service. A lot of them have Webinar Series a and C webinar tomorrow you're watching this live about the applications being an advocate for in cash in the 2017 cycle. So things going on. Ada tomorrow also has a webinar about there if the assistance program and how to get involved. So being on their Twitter, being on their mailing list, on their application service yet, but is absolutely something that I encourage. And again, please, where I go to finances for you as things change and evolve. You can meet with me. I have drop-ins three times a week, Mondays from one to four, and Wednesdays from two to four. Those are 15 minute one-on-one drop in sessions. Those open out around 845 in the morning on the day of and so like if you look today, for instance, there's none left today, but next week on Monday starting at 845 in the morning, you're going to see them open up again. So one-on-one drop-ins. Great for quick questions that you have your brace and look at your school list and ask anything. Click, copy that. One essay, for instance. That's a root drop-ins on Tuesdays from 33 to 430. That's just nice. Sitting in a Zoom room and anybody who comes in comes in, you have to be comfortable with other people hearing your questions. But when we're in there together, it's actually really cool because people hear questions and answer each other's questions and coming up with follow-ups that they weren't thinking about that. So that could be in the community if you feel comfortable addressing your questions in a group. There's also an appointment with me those book out really, really quickly. If you've had that experience, you know that they will quit four to six weeks ahead of time. I do folds back a handful of appointments every week. So I think like right now I might have to appointments available for next week, but every week I'll really suffering many times for for the week after. So sometimes you can catch a point there. And as a note, if you have appointments with me and you don't meet them, do cancel because then somebody else can take the spot. Health Careers presentations like this one available. on Handshake, post everything on the CCS media library. So you can see all of the past presentations that I've done. And then the presentations will be sitting up there in a few days too. presentations coming up. We're going to have some "Focus On" meetings we're gonna spend a lot of time together. So in June we have two "Focus On" meetings coming. First one is going to be on June 1st, and that's a focus on situational judgment tests. So Casper, and AMCAS PreView which was formerly known as SJT. So we're going to take a look in debt at those on June 1st as a side note about situational judgment tests, the last time that I saw you all in a group they were not open yet. But now they're open. So take a look the  times you might want to think about when it makes sense for you to take of these SJT's If you have your list of schoool's finalized, know where you're going to be applying, their open now. "Focused On" secondary applications, that's going to be on June 8th. You are probably about to submit or just submitted AMCAS and so then we're going to be talking about Wow, Okay, what's next? There will be an Interviewing workshop in August But I don't have that booked Right yet. So those are the things that are coming up for us. So we'll get to see each other real soon. Less than a month We'll get to see each other in a group like this again. That's all that I have know that questions are coming in as I was talking and so do you have a question and I didn't cover what you're curious about please put a question in the Q&A box. We'll address those now. Do you want me to read those questions to you? Oh, yeah, that sounds fun. Okay. So I'll just start at the beginning. I answer as many as I could as we went along. If you still if you still have questions, go ahead and post them in the in the Q and A. But would you recommend sending one application first? Verify while you're waiting for your M CAT scores to come back and then submit additional afterwards, submit the rest. I don't think I have. I'm assuming they're applying additional school adding additional schools in their AMCAS application. Yeah. That is one of those it depends things. If you have a list of schools, you know, you're going to apply to regardless of your MCAT score and go ahead and apply to those schools. If the decision to apply or not hinges on that and MCAT score, that's part of a larger conversation that I want you to have with a Health Careers Advisor. Thanks. Are the, the personal comments essay, different from our three most meaningful essays? It's mostly though. Is that just the personal statement? Correct? Yes. So personal comments essay, I say that is what we would call personal statement. And then the three most meaningful experiences That's part of your work and activities section where you're pulling out three experiences that you're going to write that additional 1325 essay about. Alright, I think you answered this earlier, but just again, yeah, it does. There need to be continuity of message content and the personal comments, research essays for the MD PhD, re applicants. Yeah. Yes. I'll say yes, that's it. All right. Should I consider applying MD, PhD if I lack any super significant research experience? Yeah. Applying MD/PhD significant research experience is absolutely a prerequisite for that. That's something that I certainly would love to talk to you about your curious about MD/PhD. but you don't have significant Research experience come talk to a Health Careers Advisor And can you re-explain how we enter our spring courses on AMCAS if we don't have grades yet. Well, I can answer that. You can't gotta wait for the spring grades. A+'s for everybody. That's what I say.  Or A's cause they don't count A+'s Can I put the actual grades in the application which were taken by a foreign university? ECA evaluation needed. I'm not sure. That is in Cornell transcript only shows transferred as pass or fail. Yes. So look at the AMCAS stuff about transcripts. I will say that by enlarge transcripts from foreign universities, like if you weren't in a US university based program, you will not be putting the grades from them or be submitting the transcripts to AMCAS. So in general, that's the answer, but double-check your situation. With the AMCAS guides. Yeah. But since we have to wait for a spring grades, we cannot do that. I'm not sure what led to here. If you're in a... If you're currently studying abroad, perhaps that's why he might, I mean, look in most of the time, if you're a foreign university, you are not going to be submitting transcripts are grades at all. But if you're in a US program in a foreign country, that a transcript from the from the US based institution then you will be submitting so you can look into whether or not that's the type of school that your at and the program that you're attending right now is going to generate a US transcript And then you'll have your answer do I enter spring grades or not. All right, and so, um, another question here is, sorry, my Internet dropped or the HCEC section just addressed what was the June tenth date and one of the responses that I have put in here before I realize I have I mistyped I so the first tier is from May 31st to June 10th. The second tier is June 11th to the sixth to the 17th. So it's those so that was I mistyped that. In response to what is the difference between a first tier and priority letter release So first tier is anything up until June 10th. That begins then the second tier for a week and each subsequent tier is a week later. All right. I hear you saying that I should wait for spring grades to come out before submitting a transcript and AMCAS. So I'll go ahead and do that. But just to clarify, this is different from the transcript that I submit to HCEC, right? I've already submitted incomplete transcript to HCEC. Well, the HCEC pulled your Cornell transcripts, so we've got that one. The HCEC does not write about spring grades. We only assess through the fall semester. So that's not the same as what you sent to AMCAS. If it's an external transcript from another college, then you should have already said it and those grades are already done, so there's no waiting around for spring grades. So I think that answers that, but yes, you need to have your spring grades and I'll talk about this tomorrow before you submit your AMCAS application. And some thing to note is that that it's helpful for external transcripts and I don't know if you were planning to cover those tomorrow Doug is that external transcripts, if your not taking classes in Spring 2022 you can begin requesting that as soon as the application service opens And so that's a wonderful, easy to do is to just knock off. And especially because not all institutions are as fast as Cornell at getting transcripts out that is a great to-do lists for early on in in application for classes where your external transcripts from one spring grades. Request them early that we know that they're in, they know they're going to get process. Right? I mean, an example is if you went to a talk a couple of courses at a community college prior to coming to Cornell. And it's in a remote area and some part of the country that maybe under-resourced right now and you wait until June and then there may take several weeks for that to happen. So as soon as you can do it, the better that way it doesn't hold up your application at AMCAS Do we need to send out letters of recommendation separately? Then AMCAS or will they receive the ones we sent to HCEC? Somebody hasn't read the required readings because this is in the registerent  guide. We do include those letters. So please follow along and read up on that stuff so that you are aware of those things. Okay. When do you recommend submitting the AACOMAS application like the latest I should submit? I'm going to say just one thing. Even though ACOMAS opens early. We're going to give you till June 10th and still be in that first tier. So it doesn't it's not at any particular advantage to submit ACOMAS before AMCAS. Just to clarify that. And again, you want to wait for your spring grades which aren't going to be available until May 31st. Now for alumni, that's not an issue. But there's no, no real advantage to submitting early ACOMAS is typically has later deadlines. I don't do an add to that. Yeah. I agree. Same. Okay. We can't order our transcription so we get spring grades in June, but Nc has opened May 31st, and they look at who sends in first. So this is a disadvantage if we cannot send in our apps on May 31st. This is that's that's that's that's wrong. I don't understand how you think that's a disadvantage. Medical schools don't get as Ana presented today. Medical schools do not receive any data from AMCAS until June 24th. So whether you submitted on May 31st or June 9th, you're still in the same letter released for the HCEC. So there's no I don't understand waiting for spring grades is does it matter? What you'll need to do is once your spring grades are entered, then send the transcripts, which Cornell, fortunately as electronic transcripts with parchment that usually arrives within a day. Yeah. And then in June, it takes just a couple of days for AMCAS to verify those. So that's not it is not a disadvantage and that's an erroneous statement. So if we're taking a class that will end a bit after that early HCEC deadline, would it be best to wait? Yeah. Especially if the class is something that they are going to get serious about what you've received the grade and absolutely weight by in general? Yes. I I would wait. That's one of those. I would rather it completely together and everything. The way that you want it to be the first year deadline for HCEC. Because yes, if you're I know you'll cover this tomorrow Doug, but I'll say this too, ya know, tier 2. Tier 3, tier 4 is still an HCEC letter . It's still gonna get to the schools you want it to get and it's better. It's just that HCEC has to decide when to start writing letters and who to start writing, them for that's why it matters when we get AMCAS because we have to make some sort of plan even if you end up in tier 2 or tier 3 you stil get an HCEC letter still get an HCC letter in plenty of time. And I think that's the other thing. And just to clarify, it's not when we begin working on your letters. It's when we begin finalizing and releasing. We've already begun working on your letters. So just want to clarify that and I did There's a comment here, a question here if the first tier release for his June that so now that the first here is up to the 10th, then if we apply before the 10th, you're in that first tier. And so I clarify that if I know you mentioned this, but to clarify, high-school classes and I got college credit for count towards my GPA. So it's again, look at the AMCAS guide to make sure that this is correct. This is correct. Most of the time, if you received a college transcript for a class even if you took that class in high school So even if you took it over the summer and you never told Cornell that you took the class, most of the time, almost all of the time. Very rare exceptions. You have to submit that transcript to AMCAS. If you took some random calculus class at the community college your senior year of high school? Yes. That is a transcript AMCAS wants to see and something something that you should submit. Very rare to not have to submit a transcript for a US college class. Okay. Well, while were on transcripts because if we're taking a class this semester at an external institution, will that be an issue for the HCEC June deadline? We don't look at those grades. So as far as we're concerned is all about when you submit your AMCAS application. I think that was what you mentioned earlier on. I think the question is, do you want medical schools to consider those grades? I think there's an operand, isn't it that you can tell AMCAS that there are ongoing courses that you're currently enrolled in. And so they're not expecting long as they know you're taking those classes, you can submit your application with future classes listed that yes. If you were taking a July class for instance You could tell AMCAS that you were doing that. Obviously, you don't want to leave for that transcript. But in the case of that student earlier that it was a couple of these afterwards or something like that. We want to wait and I'm thinking about who they are, probably people in here who are in the master's program, our post-doc program at another institution. We want you to wait for those grades to come in because he want that to be on it. You want med schools to see all the hard work that you're doing presumably to enhance your med school application so a 100 percent and want them to see that. So oh, okay. How understanding our medical schools based on in-person clinical experience for submitting AMCAS extra curricular. I love that question. So they understand that this has been a really difficult time to earn clinical experience. And most medical schools that I talked to have said of course we get it, COVID has been difficult in-person stuff is getting cancelled left and right. And we want students to have in-person clinical experience whenever they, can, so there's no quantifying what schools that are. You know, they didn't say, Oh well we'll accept 30 hours or something like that. That's not been what I've heard from medical schools. You absolutely have to have clinical experience There's an understanding that less of it will be in-person, but it still needs to exist. So inverse and clinical experience still imports the application, doe it make sense to have less of it that in previous years? Yes. If you're applying without in-person clinical experience and definitely want to chat and make sure that you're ready to apply in the cycle. Okay. Is there any reason to submit letters directly to schools which do not require committee letters to make sure they get letters earlier or wait for HCEC letter to be sent. I mean, I'm sure you have a response, but I think they'd like to hear from you. Um, there's not really an advantage in that sense, 9 times out of ten, maybe ten times out of ten I would say honestly, the advantage of having the HCEC letter out, we use the advantage of getting the letters into schools a little bit earlier. It's also an annoying the administrative process for you. Well, you're already going through all of the work to get the HCEC letter and make everything happen on time. I suggest me it's easy letters and then give better quality packet. It's more highly regarded by schools that don't require it.  Did I cover it Doug? Yeah, that was good. And I would I would just add also that medical schools, maybe they don't require a committee letter, will still accept a committee letter and would like to read. So then when you send the three individual letters and then you send the HCEC letters that also has those three individual letters that annoys the medical schools when they reach the same thing twice. The other thing too, if you send some schools three letters and the schools that are waiting for a committee letter. And they say, Oh, I've got three. I see that the student has three letters already. I guess their application is complete. I'll go ahead and review their application. And the schools that you're anticipating getting in the HCEC letter may not look at that letter because your application is complete in their minds. So not really a wise thing. Be patient. Medical schools understand our timing. Wait for the HCEC letter  I thought HCEC sends a transcripts to AMCAS No, not that's up to you. We get your Cornell transcript and you have your external transcripts sent to the HCEC. But the only thing that we send out is our committee letter. We do not send individual LOR's and we do not send transcripts. So and now make a lot more sense once you're in AMCAS and I can't get in 2023 application right now, but it's going to be super duper obvious what needs you and where you need to put it like that. All right. You mentioned earlier bio research counting for the BCPM GPA. What about neuroscience research under human development? What is the best resource for deciding if this count? So like everything else that you're choosing to put in BCPM GPA it's kind of up to you to decide whether or not it counts, and it's hard to avoid that science content You think the primary constants of the research that you're conducting  is biology, chemistry, physics or math which it sounds like it is. Then yeah. Go ahead. Counted. Keep an eye on your verification that AMCAS to see if AMCAS agrees you and that in those cases where they disagree with you, they're probably going to want to talk to your PI about the contents of their research. And so that might be a little chat to have before you leave campus about. Here's what I'm planning to do. If you are dedicated to getting this to count to your BCPM, GPA. Yeah. And just be prepared to do the academic change request form in AMCAS Make no, I don't think the students. All right. Thank you for that. If you have more letters of recommendation on top of the one submitted with HCEC, can you send those extra ones on top of HCEC? So these are what they call supplemental letters. I think you addressed this earlier in the talk. Yes, you can. What are your thoughts on that, Ana Yeah. So yes, you can. It's not common. Most people have two or three letters of recommendation and those are usually the two or three that are submitted to HCEC, but if he wants to Yeah, absolutely. Go for it. A few things to note said earlier, you have to be careful of here is beingness of multiple letters in. You're also asking for HCEC letter because you don't want to confuse medical Schools We go That's if they use letters of recommendation constitute the letters of recommendation and there's no committee letter coming and we'll just go ahead and evaluate the application that the committee letter again, though as as you all know, works or in my community, my array. So that's something to be careful of but absolutely there's a spot for entry, additional letters of recommendation. On AMCAS has ten spots. HCEC only take up, one. I said it's rare, That's true. Common extra letters of recommendation. First of all, I asked medical schools this corner, somebody in an elevator, there's no elevators anymore. COVID, but I'm going to get on and we have a national conference in Denver Doug and I will corner somebody I heard that and I have elevators. I ask Are you reading the additional letters of recommendation? My students are submitting letter. I hear mixed things. I don't have any good evidence that medical schools are reading the  additional letters of recommendation they are certainly not required. If you need the letters of recommendation that tell a story. I had a student a few years ago who did undergraduate research for three years and then have their PI write a letter for them. That they submitted to the HCEC they submitted it as extra That little extra? Because they knew it might look a little funny. If you have something like letter that you want to direct to a specific medical school? you have an affiliation or the person that's writing you that letter has an affiliation with a particular medical school. Sometimes it makes sense to do an additional letter. But by enlarge It's not necessary. But yes, it's possible to do to you just need to be careful about making sure med schools don't get confused. All right. And our last question, although I think there may be a question in the chat, I'm not sure if this got uh, let me let me ask this to clarify. The three personal LOR's we sent to HCEC will not be sent to AMCAS basically. No, that's that's not true. We include the three LOR's 2-3 LOR's  with our committee letter. So it becomes one letter packet gets sent to AMCAS. How do we send them if we cannot read them? Well, you never got to read them because you presumably you waived your access to them unless you retain your right to read them, which is your right. And then you should ask your letter writer if you want to read their letter. So but a few waved at you waived your right to it and we'll send that with our letter. So that is that that's the end of the Q and a. There is one check question Are BCPM  GPS calculated for graduate school as well? So they're going to look at all the classes. He said that the baccalaureate level and then they're going to look at your graduates GPA separate, so they'll look at all the classes you took before you or your master's degree from Cornell. presumablly, That's where you got your bachelor's degree, cause your here Their going to look at all the classes you took after other classes, you get an undergraduate level after your bachelor's degree from Cornell then they combine those two GPA's together. So if we did a post-doc program for instance so that's three GPAs. And then they're going to look at all of your graduate classes. As they're going to look at that It's one separate GPA so it's like 4 different GPA's their calculating So that is all the questions. I hope we answered them. Thank you Ana for your presentation and I'm gonna let you close us out. All right. Have a good night, I'm gonna stop the recording now. Thanks for everybody for coming today.