Welcome everyone to  "How to organize your job or internship search." My name is Jess Perlus. I'm the interim Senior Associate Director in Cornell Career Services. And my pronouns are she her hers? I have a background in psychology and career counseling. So I'm really happy to bring these kind of connected interests together today, to give you some concrete tools and ideas. So because we were having a little bit of registration problems, it's kind of tailored to internship or job search. Lots of transferable skills and ideas that you can gain from today. This is the career development cycle wheel that we try to include in all of our presentations. Some of the main key points here are that in order to make career decisions and find your paths, it can be very helpful to first understand herself What's important to me? What am I good at, what are my strengths, what am I interested in and how does that fit together? Another piece would be, how can I explore my options? What's out there, resources, networking, activities, internships, that kind of thing. Though it's kinda the blue phase and the red phases is the take action. Applications cover letters, that kind of stuff. So Career Services helps with everything in that sense. So the plan for today, we're going to cover a lot of ground. Big picture tips about goal setting and time management. Specifics about planning your job and internship search. And then a little bit more about the realities of what to expect when doing a search, kinda the ups and downs that we can expect. And then a recap of some of our career services resources that can help you with your search. Feel free to ask questions at anytime you can unmute or raise your hand or type in the chat. Today, we're going over a lot of different techniques because I want you to have options. So some are going to seem like way too lofty, not going to work for you. So as we're talking about these ideas, think about what am I good at or what am I willing to try? What are my circumstances or my tasks am I a student in a lab and I have to think about that. Is it fitting in time around courses are clubs. So think about how you can make the ideas that we share today actually work for you. And I welcome you to share your ideas or things you tried so other people can learn from that as well. So why should we bother organizing? Making the effort now to organize your search is going to pay off later. These organizational skills are life skills that are going to continue helping you no matter what your future job is or your circumstances are. Just kinda organizing your life or your situation. So it is worth it to try some systems to figure out what's going to be sustainable for you. Goal setting. So you probably heard of goals, but we try to define it just in case. So a goal is an idea of the future or desired result that a person or a group of people envision. So you're planning for it, you're committing to it. And then you can break down your goals into sub-goals. You can think about different domains like my life goals are my educational goals or my spiritual goal, that kind of thing. So it can be helpful when we're thinking about goal setting and planning our time. So smart goals is one of our very favorite things to talk about in career services. So whenever we have a goal, instead of keeping it vague, we want to break it down into something that's specific. What do you wanna do? Measurable? How do you know when you've achieved it? Can you quantify it? Is it achievable? Is it within your power? Is this realistic? With everything you've got going on, and timely? When do you want to accomplish it? So let's look at a concrete example together. So suppose your original goal was I'm going to Network, going to network in my career great idea but a little bit vague. So you could break it down into pieces, right? I could sign up for the online platform, CUeLINKS. I can make my profile and I could search for an alum, can also sign up for LinkedIn and do the same steps, complete my profile and look for an alum. I might prepare six to 10 informational interview questions. Once I find an alum, these are the things that I am going to be wondering about. And then you could set a goal for yourself, instead of just keep networking and connecting, you might say, reach out to three people and write a personalized note. So 3, emailing three people that seems manageable, but just networking seems kinda overwhelming. So we tend to postpone it or ignore it because we don't want to tackle it. Another example might be getting a summer internship. Maybe. That seems really tough and lofty. So one step might be signing up for a handshake. and completing my profile by Friday, Let's say. You could also search, handshake and commit to reading at least 10 job descriptions of interest. You learn a lot from reading job description, seeing like what, what tools and software are mentioned a lot. So then when you come across a job That's a really good fit or that seems unique in some way or better for you. You get more excited about it and you can be more convincing in your cover letter and materials, like oh this job is a great fit for me because I see that this is unique about it. So even just reading job descriptions and giving yourself a concrete number can be helpful. So then you might say I'm going to update my resume and then I'm going to get it reviewed. Or I'm going to do a module on job search and interviewing, So this is just arbitrary, apply to three to four positions a week it will depend on your situation, but set a goal for yourself to help keep you accountable. So this is, these are examples of turning it into smart goals. it's specific, it's measurable. You did or didn't apply to those jobs and it's time-bound. So not all of these are time-bound, but try to put always like by Friday or within a week or over the next couple of days, that kind of thing. The more specific you are, the better. This is another way to think about doing your goals. Some people literally make a matrix or you can just kind of think about it, picture it in your head if you're a visual person. But you can see on the left we've got importance. How important is it, high or low? And then on the top we've got urgency. How urgent is it? High urgency, low urgency. So then as you have your tasks, you might think, which quadrant do they fit in? So one might be studying for finals or prelims like those things are assigned to a date, they're going to happen no matter what. So it's in your best interest to study for them and prepare  to perform well. But maybe choosing a major for you is really important. You definitely want to do that, but it's less urgent than finals. Or I've got to work on drafting a paper, but the paper is not due for a while. I've gotta do it eventually, but it's kind of lower, lower urgency. Call mom for example. Maybe mom feels that it's high urgency. but currently you are placing it on low importance. Again, thinking about your situation, but as you have all these things coming at you and priorities and emails, figuring out how do I sort through to prioritize them and sometimes just big box quadrants can be helpful to think through that. I'm going to keep going. But if you have questions, just pop them in the chat. This is another time management metaphor that I like. So imagine you need to fill a jar with some big rocks, some pebbles and some sand. The rocks represent really big projects like term papers or project team tasks. And then the pebbles or kind of smaller things and sand might be emails, that kind of thing. So if you had to get all that stuff in the jar, what would you put in first? You can just think to yourself. So usually jars. Will look one of two ways, like this. So the jar on the left, somebody started with all the little things. That's a, that's a technique that I've certainly attempted to use before, right? I can just do these things really quickly. I'll feel better about it. Kind of slowly work my way up to big projects. But we see it doesn't basically doesn't fit. It doesn't fit within our time scope possibilities. On the other side, we have, if you start by putting the big projects in, the big chunks In other words, setting aside time for those things, doing them. Then somehow there's the little sand pieces always find a way to fit in and the littler  pebbles and rocks. They find a way to fit within your time constraints. So a visual metaphor. But basically, it's really hard to make time for the big stuff. So sometimes we have to challenge ourselves to just commit to doing that. Another piece of time management and understanding your work stuff is understanding what to manage. So thinking about are you balancing school work, family obligations, friends, time for yourself? And are there things you want to do more or less of in your day? So you, To some extent you don't have control. You know, if you're an athlete and you have practices, you have to go to. Understandable. So again, think about your circumstances. But it can be really helpful as part of time management for the job and internship search if you're understanding where your time is going. So some people track it. A lot of different ways to track it, but definitely remember things like sleep, how much sleep are you getting? People might use their calendar, notes or a Word doc or a planner, whatever is comfortable for you there. For a week or two, sit down, review the past week, plan out your next week and think about did you meet your goals? Did you make time for them and achieve them? And sometimes we think we can accomplish a task and a certain amount of time, but we learn that it's not going to go as we planned. So you might think of adjustments. Oh, I should allow for more time next time. So think, think about whether this could be helpful to you if you're really struggling to make time for applying to internships on top of schools and things like that. Would it be helpful to take a step back and just track where your time is going. In order to, to plan more strategically. We could say. So. Couple of more tips. Scheduling is really, really helpful. Long-range planning. So certainly identifying goals and deadlines, making target dates, figuring out steps. So for example, we just had a career fair. So we announce those like four months ahead of time. You might kinda put a little note on yourself for the calendar register for fair and blackout time. Look at employers that are coming or update my resume two weeks before the fair. Once you see big picture things, you can start planning backwards and setting aside time to prep for them. I'm in the learning strategy center, here at Cornell, has a lot of great resources. They have blank semester and weekly calendars that can help you to. But it can be really hard, but ideally, if you can safeguard blocks of work time, that'll help. Again, I know I'm talking about lofty things here, structuring quite a bit of your life. There is such a thing as going too far on one side, where we might call perfectionism or over planning or just micro-managing every 15 minutes segment. In a way that's not very flexible. We know things come up, unexpected stuff happens. So figure out for you what's kind of your comfort zone of planning and fitting in your daily needs. So I'll pause there for a second. Are there any questions so far? Has anyone tried some of these and found that they worked or didn't work? You can unmute and share or pop it in the chat. Okay, I'm going to keep going. But if you're typing your ideas then that's great, keep typing, and we'll check them out later. Other helpful things is minimizing digital distractions. No, I got one slide ahead of myself. There's the Maduro technique. So this is a time management technique where you put a timer on for 25 minutes, then you take a five minute break, and then you kind of repeated the interval is known as a pomodoro, which comes from the Tomato Timer, tomato word. So that's one that's pretty common out there. It works for some people. I've tried it a couple times. Sometimes it depends on the task you're doing. Is it really intensive, creative work? Is it more like busy work and it's easier to step away. But often feels more manageable. I only have to get through 22 more minutes rather than oh This is this giant task in front of me. And then you can save checking your phone or getting a drink of water or something for that five minute break. And then every so often you take a longer break of 10 minutes. It's one worth trying if you're interested. Here we are, the other thing is to think about what else is in your space, What's going on? Can you minimize digital distraction? So if you are distracted by social media and websites, consider or software that might temporarily block those distractions. Or if it's your phone, right, maybe you want to turn off your phone or put it in another room or silence that. There's a lot of Do Not Disturb type of functions built into a lot of the tools you're already using. So often. Using those can really help you focus and take a tech break and feel less distracted too. Use tools to help you. So on the left we have some different apps people have tried, including Pomodoro, but time full, Evernote, stay focus, cold turkey, self-control, moment. These all kinda help you organize yourself and your life or your time. In addition to built-in like distraction, silencers, if you're already using Outlook or Google, make use of the calendar feature or set, set reminders or alarms or whatever systems. Some people are really great at color-coding and note-taking other people that's not their thing. So really the key here is to observe what's working for you personally, concrete, trying to do that and remembering to be a little bit flexible. I remember when I was in school, I'd figure it out for a semester and then my classes would change my schedule would change and my travel time in-between places threw everything off. So you might find you have something that's working and then you're going to have to adapt it a little bit as your as your day changes. All right, We're getting into the work smarter, not harder section. And after that comes the job search specifics. Work smarter, not harder. So these are some additional tips that can make you be really efficient doing your job search. So one, think about the physical environment of where you are. Are you in a library or an office space where there's not so many people who might distract you. Sometimes people prefer that their back is to the traffic flows. There is likely to look up all the time. Think about what kind of environment you work best in. Do you get distracted by clutter or do you like background music or do you need like total quiet? Do you like having your headphones or do you like white noise? In like a coffee shops? So thinking about what settings do you work best in? And anticipate your needs, right? Snacks, bathroom breaks, beverages, try to have everything you need in your vicinity. So there's fewer excuses are reasons to get up and move. And state-dependent learning here is something from psychology. Basically, it's this idea that if you're going to be tasked with remembering information, so let's say it's an exam you have to take. Mimicking the conditions of the exam when you're studying is going to help have additional triggers and queues to encode that information. So if you're studying for an exam, lie on your bed and two in the morning and you're reading a textbook over and over and you're kinda falling asleep. Those are a lot of cues that will not be at all, (laughs) Hopefully won't be the same as taking the exams though. Like are you sitting up straight? Do you have lighting? Are you studying a digital thing or on paper thing based on how it's going to be tested. So think a little bit about the types of ways where the physical environment can really impact how and where and the methods that you study. A related tip using your biological rhythms to your advantage, to the extent possible, right? But when do you have energy? Are you what they call a morning person? Are you able to have a little flexibility when you schedule your classes or your lab meetings or your exercise or your studying. Do you need breaks before like getting ready to do a lot of nighttime studying or so, figuring out that and talking to other people too  how did you figure it out? What did - what worked for you? what didn't work for you? What are some clues that is or isn't working? So hearing from other people who are studying the same materials can really help to watch out for multitasking. So in multitasking doesn't exactly exist. It's literally, it's more like micro tasking. So switching back and forth really rapidly between multiple tasks, you're not really simultaneously doing both. There's some articles about why we don't recommend this. But if you have the ability to focus on one task or minimize the number of other distractors. It's going to be more efficient for your working style. Another important piece, right? Tracking your progress and celebrating it. Don't just delete or erase something when you're done, take a few seconds. Appreciate it. Consider if you learned anything that you might modify for next time. So like if you submit a job application that's kind of exciting. That was a big effort. You had to prepare materials or write a cover letter or something like that. Your future is in their hands. So think, think about celebrating the little wins like that. And maybe for the bigger projects, you know, maybe you have a really stressful exam coming up. Plana a reward for yourself. I'm going to do a movie night with my friends as soon as we finish the exam. So you have rewards to look forward to in addition to the stressors around them. Sometimes people find it really helpful to tell someone not in a  bragging way but just, Hey, this good news happened to me. This is really cool. I'm really happy about it. Or you can always update your CV or resume or LinkedIn if it's a career related accomplishment that you've done. So sometimes people are just go, go, go, go, go. They kind of forget to sit back and be excited about if something had happened. I am a psychologist, so I do like to include this slide about self-compassion. Again, we're talking about planning and sometimes things don't go as planned. We don't reach all our goals on time or on schedule. So this is a good clue to yourself that you can practice self-compassion. And I like this teapot picture but, right? Treat yourself as you would treat a good friend. That's pretty easy to understand. We wouldn't say a lot of the really, really mean things we say to ourselves, to someone. So the three components of self-compassion are noticing your suffering, being kind, in the face of that suffering. And common humanity. Recognizing that suffering is part of the Shared human experience. So we're not talking about self-pity or self-indulgence here. It's kind of taking a moment to realize that didn't go as planned. It could have gone differently if I had done X, Y, or Z. But at the same time, I know that mistakes happen. I get it. I'm going to be okay and move on. So that's again, a lot of these skills are life skills that will be applicable not only to job search, but other pieces too. One more note about counting on other people. So sometimes it can be really helpful to use a buddy or study groups for like working out or things like that. Think about if that's going to help you be more successful. Asking for help can be important, recognizing when you need it. Who should I ask? What should I say? What kind of helps should I be looking for? And remembering that other people's methods might not be your methods. So maybe after today you have some cool new ideas. You try some new apps or structures and that is working really well. And you recommend it to your friends and it's not working for them because their situation, circumstances, habit are just not fitting in the things that worked for you so that can be frustrating. Sometimes for you, but think about that piece of it too. It's all about finding what it's going to work for you. And these are just a couple other quick time management tips that I've heard from people throughout the years. So again, think about that sounds kinda silly or oh I've always wanted to try that. Maybe that's something that I try over February break or I try later on this semester. So when it comes to email, if you find yourself sending the same email over and over and maybe sending out some templates built into the system. Or if you're getting lots of spam and junk, maybe setting up some filters or to deal with later kind of folder high urgency, that kind of thing. If you regularly send emails, maybe as part of your clubs, you can send them to go at a specific day or time or a reminder the day before that kind of thing. Some people do meal prep if they're in a situation where they're making their own food or if you're ordering food, right? Maybe do it ahead of time. So you don't have to wait in line. Some people do outfits or create routines to help them get in the habit of things writing stuff down, bookmarks are mine. Some people do things that increase speed. Other people, they need that time to be slower and normal  the way it was done. So again, think about some ideas might speak to you that you want to try next. Let's learn more about job searching. So, oh, I think I made a poll. I wonder if it will work. We're going to attempt to do two poles. I think you should be able to see both of them at this point in time. Who's in the room? What year are you? And what kind of search are you conducting? How many people are looking for internships or full-time jobs or you don't even know. It just seemed like a good presentation to go to. Give it a little time here. Looks like this is working again. If you came a little late, I'm really sorry about the link misunderstandings. We're going to try to figure out what happened, but glad you made it today and we are recording. I'll cut out this middle part. Okay, let's see. Okay, now most people - little mix of everything. Most people looking at internship search, but some people are looking at job search. Okay, great, Thank you. That is helpful. Tips regarding bookmarks and folders. So definitely bookmark some of the websites that are going to be really helpful to you in your job and internship search so our Career Services homepage, the Career Development toolkit we'll have a link to that later on, but it's kinda of a number one go-to key resource to be using Cornell handshake, linkedin, CUeLINKS, those are all really common ones that you'll be using more and more throughout your internship and full-time job search. So having like a if you use Safari, right? Like a folder for career stuff and all of those right there. You don't have to use Google Drive literally you might use a different SharePoint or box system, but we recommend you keep a master resume. That's like really long, doesn't matter how many pages. You can kind of could include high school experiences. And then you might have some kind of customized resumes for your industries or cover letter drafts. Maybe even some email templates if you're going to be requesting letters of recommendation or references. So if you kind of know  that I always keep all my career stuff over here easily accessible on the Cloud. So even when I'm running back and forth to do things on my phone, I can still have access to them. If someone says I need you to send me this thing, it can be like right there, ready to go. And again, email filters and labels, like if you're Getting overwhelmed with the number of handshake e-mails you get from career services, maybe filtering some of those or labeling them or setting aside time once a week to like sort through all the new job posts that came in that interest you. That kind of thing, job search agents and job search alerts are really handy. So most sites will let you sign up for e-mail alerts that notify you when there are new jobs that match your filters. So this leftmost one is handshake. So if you type a keyword, you can put in a location. You can say internship, paid, accepts OPT, however many filters you put on it, it'll save that. And if you, if you could save the search button, oops, sorry. Then it'll keep emailing me when new jobs are added on Handshake, we add hundreds of new jobs a day. So it's in your best interest to not remember all your filters, but to set up multiple job searches so you're not missing out. Idealist is another one they call it a create an e-mail alert. And then LinkedIn of course, has one if you're searching their job alert section. So if you don't know what to look for, set a couple different ones. And again, as we said before (undetectable), as you're reading multiple job descriptions, you'll start to see, oh, this isn't really meant for me, or none of these are sounding really good. Maybe I turn this one off or maybe I go more in the analyst side rather than the computer science side or something like that. But always be looking for these kind of things. And if you've set up a folder and email filtering system, it will be less overwhelming. Job application spreadsheet. You're not required to do this, of course, but I think it can be really handy whether or not you're a spreadsheet person doesn't have to be fancy. So these are a couple sample like headers that you might recreate. But think about what's important to you. What do I need to know? What do I need to keep track of? So you might have a company name, the position, a link URLs to the company itself, to the application where you found it. If you have a contact person put in their name, pros and cons you've started to think about regarding the web- the company. Then there might be another subsection of your application status itself. So when is it due?  Does it  require a cover letter? How, is it in progress? Drafted, done, submitted. Oh, it looks like it's also asking for a portfolio. Are there any other things that I'm going to have to pull together? What date did I apply? What? What information was I given? Was it you'll know by March 1st or you'll hear from us within two to three weeks or something like that. So you can kinda keep track of your statuses. Especially if you're in a competitive field where there's a lot of things really back to back with short deadlines, you want to make sure you don't miss out just because Oh, you thought you had responded to the latest thing there, but you are missing a piece and you weren't considered because your application was incomplete. That's a real bummer situation to be in. And the red section here is company research. So as you're thinking about what will my life look like, if it's a summer internship or full-time job, How big is the company? Where is it located? Do I have a mission and vision? Is it - do I know anyone that works there? Can I find anyone that works there? What do I know about their product or what else is important to me, like the gender ratio or friendliness towards hiring folks with disabilities and accessibility in the workplace, accommodations, something like that. So there's something in your life that's important to you that would be like a bonus or something. You're also thinking, um, similar to when you were choosing a college to attend. Perhaps you're thinking, Oh, what about the location? What about the reputation? What about the cost? What about this? What about that? So the things that are really rising to the top for you that might be important and factor into your decision making can be helpful to have it all in one place. But people don't. It doesn't have to be a spreadsheet. It could be a notebook or a Google Doc or whatever is going to make sense for you. And the way you track things. We do have a couple other ideas. Their smartphone apps, there's a lot of different versions of that. There's specific project management software. There's some listed their job tracking software, like jibber jabber. I haven't personally used some of those. But again, you might think about, do I really need help in this domain? What might help me have? I tried some spreadsheets on my own that are working, that kind of thing. So multiple methods to keep track of your app. But you just don't want something to fall through the crack like that. Another note about organizing your job and internship search. Filenames actually matter. It makes a good first impression, keeps you organized, so you're selecting the right files. So here are some examples, right? This one is called Final Final version 8 resume or just  resume. PDF. But if you're renaming your resume and uploading Charles Smith's resume for Nike. It shows them that you're a detail oriented person that you've gone above and beyond that, you're definitely sure you uploaded the right thing. And as you're customizing your materials more and more. ( Undetectable) So suppose you also applied to Adidas, you might have slightly different resume and cover letter that highlights different things. Maybe one is more about team-building internship and more design internship. So there's going to be subtle differences. So you don't have seven versions of resume.pdf. Labeling really does matter. And we do recommend you attach as a PDF unless they ask for a different file format. So here are some suggested tasks for someone undergoing a job and internship search. Again, sort of in the smart goal vein. So, clean up your social media presence, meaning Google yourself, see what comes up. Is it good, is it not good? Can something be taken down or modified? Do you have professional photos up? Is there, do you have a LinkedIn, that kind of thing. Review relevant modules on the career development toolkit, but up to you to decide which are the relevant modules, but probably job and internship search, maybe interviewing, job and internship applications. Those are helpful. Update LinkedIn and CUeLINKS profiles, maybe that'll take about an hour. Update your resume, get it reviewed. We do resume review appointments. So you can get another pair of eyes on it. And we can help you customize for a specific position if you have one in mind. And maybe cover letters again, get it reviewed. Once you do a review or two you'll start to get a sense of, oh, now I understand, I don't have to have you don't have to have every single thing you do reviewed. But to catch big picture things that you might not be aware of, it can be really helpful. And so maybe you'll  spend some time after that, identifying target companies, lot of different ways to conduct a job search. But that, that's one that sometimes can take a little bit longer. So given these are some suggested tasks, you know, what makes sense to you? How would you prioritize which one could you make time for if you only had one hour? I put it in the workshop description, but I haven't said it yet today. But this portion of the presentation is sort of like advanced job and internship search. So if I mentioned tools you're not familiar with or you want a little bit more information about some of the earlier steps before the organization piece. Stick on at the end and I'll answer some questions or be more specific about the resources. People come with all sorts of different familiarity with our tools and best practices for career. More about search strategies. Treat applying for a job like the job itself. So it doesn't have to be, you know, 40 hours a week. But it does take a significant chunk of time to prepare all your materials and be on top of the searching and the networking piece. But the more time you put in now is going to save you time later when you're maybe more distressed. Some other great tips, download a PDF of the job description. Sometimes they disappear, maybe it expires, and it's gone. Maybe ( muffled)  you applied for it. And you're halfway through the interview process and you go back to prep for the interview and the job description disappeared. That's not great. So as part of the application process, always download a copy of the job description. Focus on the quality of each application, not how many. I meet with a lot of students who say no, I applied to 50 last week. I didn't hear anything. And often they're not aware that it's good practice to customize each application, which is going to take more time. So that's why we say quality over quantity. Um, to really show them like I'm interested in your company and this is why it's a good fit. Make their job as easy as possible to pick you out of all the candidates. So customizing your cover letter and resumes is really, really, really good strategy. And focus on positions that you are qualified for. This can be hard for folks, right? Especially entry-level jobs that say require two to three years of experience and you're saying I need my first entry level jobs, I can get that two to three your experience. But if you're having to divide your time and it says like Bachelors, Okay, master's preferred. But all the DHAP job tasks really see more aligned with the masters type application thing. Think about, do I want to do some more research? Do I want to network them first, I want to talk to the job recruiter to find out if I would be considered truly without a master's and this kinda case or can I better spend the hour and a half that I would've on that job, on a different job that's aligned with my skills in a different way. Networking and social connections. So this is another job search strategy connecting on LinkedIn with people that you know, reaching out to key folks in the industry  or recruiters, or Cornell Alumni, which you can find on LinkedIn or CUeLINKS. Kind of building your support system or your Advising system. So talked about this on the previous section, but ask them for help can be a sign of strength, right? Hey, I'm really struggling with understanding exactly what customizing means. Can somebody help me? And so Career Services can help you with any stage of this process. But building your system can be really helpful. As you kind of, oh, I usually go to older people, in my club for this kind of question or my advisor is good for these questions. I'm also in a lab and I like to ask them questions about professional development and in the field. So the more people you have that you can tap into based on what the type of question is. You'll get kind of better quality, guidance, along your job path, a little bit more on the realities of job searching. So searching can be stressful. I know comparing yourself to others is usually going to leave you feeling not great no matter what the comparison is. Again, remember there's so many different ways to land a job. And it's when you're in this search, you're kinda going to always be feeling like there's a little bit more you could  be doing. So for the sake of your mental health set your own boundaries, right? Going to network for an hour or pick three people to contact, but I don't need to contact 25 alumni. That's a little bit overkill based on my time and the other things that are important to me. Common occurrences, never hearing back from an application, I know it really hurts, but sometimes employers, they just never let you know that you're not in the running anymore. We wish they would send least a apology type notification, so your hopes aren't up. But sometimes they just don't write back. It's okay if after the application deadline has passed and you've, you can reach out and enquire about your status like that's allowed. But sometimes you just don't always hear back, especially on the timeline that you want. It's also common to not know exactly where the application goes after you hit Submit Online. ATS. stands for applicant tracking system. So sometimes it's going to go through an algorithm that's going to kind of read and give you a score. And whether or not you're match. Sometimes it'll go straight to an HR person. Sometimes it will go directly to your supervisor or the department you're going to be working in you're not always going to know that ahead of time when you're applying. So it's okay to ask, if you're trying to figure out who to develop the cover letter for. But it's also okay to not know. That's also why so much customization matters because you're going to get farther through the applicant tracking system and the different audiences that will see it, they can clearly match up your materials to the job description. Yes, Mental Health thank you. Common occurrences unfortunately is conflicting advice or values. So a lot of times I talked to students who say my parents told me blah, blah, blah. The advice was absolutely true when they were applying. But the world of work has changed so much that it's just not really realistic anymore. So now you're kinda caught between so-and-so was telling me this and so and so is telling me that I'm deciding whether or not to go to grad school. It's a big choice. These people tell me I need it these people tell me I don't. so That can be really frustrating as well. Definitely make a career appointment if you want to talk through. We won't necessarily take sides or we don't maybe know enough about working in the industry be we will definitely help you figure, kind of figure out what's important to you or what follow-up questions you want to be asking. And this one I kind of mentioned before, entry-level jobs that require an exorbitant amount of work experience. It's not realistic. Different jobs, companies will count it differently. So sometimes they'll count your internship. So say you had two internships. Is that equivalent to one year of work or less or something? Other times they truly mean full-time work after graduation. So again, sometimes that's something you can be talking with them about. Sometimes they don't even think about what they're writing in the job description or it's just like, Oh, we'd love it if someone had work experience, but we'll consider anybody. So if you don't - if you see that, pay attention to the word like required versus preferred. And I mentioned that people find jobs through many different ways. So we talked a lot - That's also why the spreadsheet is so helpful. It can help keep track. So some people, [muffled]- this oh sorry- this comes from the Cornell outcomes dashboard, career.cornell.edu. It's publicly available. Any of you all can go there right now and play with it if you want. But this is a representation of all the students from various colleges, how they found their job. So some people get it. The most common one is from a previous summer or volunteer experience. Sometimes it's through on-campus interviewing, through career services. Sometimes it's a job post, again, referral networking, personal contact, career fair. You can see there's like half a dozen more of these. So the point of this slide is that a strategy that uses multiple methods is going to then maximize your chances of getting a response. If all you do is look on LinkedIn. It's not a very strategic strategy. It could still work. But the more you're confident in using a couple of different methods, the better your chances might be. This is another piece of the dashboard that you can look at. So for this one I filtered by arts and sciences students, but you can see the time of year that they got the job offer. So I know most of you are thinking about internship, but eventually you'll be thinking about full-time job offers. So I'm to do oh, you can't? Yeah. Okay. So on the bottom axis you can see that lots of people lock in their jobs more than four months before graduation, which is in the middle graduation month, May, June. Yeah. But lots of people lock-in jobs after even up to five months after, especially business and management, you can see kind of a stratification there. So again, this is, the point of this slide is to normalize that it's going to vary by industry and it's going to vary by a lot of other circumstances, the pandemic through some stuff off for sure with regular job timelines. So the point is to don't panic. If you're getting closer and closer and everyone else you know has something locked in, plenty of other people don't have things locked in, plenty of jobs and haven't even opened yet. They're gonna open closer to April for like an immediate hire and fill. So you should set up as much of the stuff if it's possible right now, with the job search alerts, so that when something comes in that's a good fit, you're ready to apply for it. But at the same time, you're not panicking. If you're not finding a ton of stuff. But you are making a career appointment to talk to an advisor about adjusting your strategy or thinking through your strategy. 5:57, All right. If you're (muffled) - I will go a little bit over six, but if you have to leave, totally fine. I will e-mail the slides and we are recording. It'll take a little bit longer to get the recording up on our website. You will have these things. Other things that impact the job search timeline. What the economy looks like. In general, the job market, specific economic conditions. If you're trying to get to a certain city or region, how many jobs are there? The credentials needed for that job? How much flexibility, (muffled)- you have with what you're looking for, time and energy in the job search, the quality of your materials, the quality of your strategy. So all these things are kind of factors playing a role in how the search is going so, what we really don't want is you wasting your time. So the more you can think and strategize and have confidence that you've done everything you can. The rest is kind of out of your control with the economy in the world, and the state of the world at the time and what you are looking for. But and I'm sure there's more things that could be on this list that aren't. But hopefully I haven't bumped you out too much. Here are some tips for staying positive, right? Think of it as marathon, not a sprint. It's kind of long term strategic planning. Our National Association says the on average the time for an interview to offer is 23 days. That's almost a month, right? So this is just a really long process. So you would like it to be, you know, apply interview the next week, offer in the next week. It rarely works like that to kind of mentally for setting your expectations for this to be longer than I prefer it to be, can help you from getting stressed out. Step away from a search if you need a mental break, it's finals. And also this thing happened and also this personal thing is happening. It's okay to prioritize your mental health and sanity and take care of yourself first. Getting more comfortable with rejection. This can be hard. Nobody likes it, but approach it from a growth mindset. What can I learn from this? How is it normal for this to be the experience after the grieving has happened? How can I grow and learn from this? So couple of wrap up things about the resources we have from career and then questions. So visit Cornell career services, like I mentioned, we can help you with your strategy, resume, cover letter, LinkedIn, practice interviews. Can the whole stage of everything.